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UNREGISTERED COMPETITIONS: WHAT ARE THEY?


sambatogo Joined on 29 VIII 2007 Total posts: 74	Re: UNREGISTERED COMPETITIONS: WHAT ARE THEY? 11. března 2008 1:40 Quicktime2 This is true about the IDSF we understand. The IDSF no longer has bans on thier website in any obvious place, it appears. Also, all competitions that were banned in Canada for several years have now been removed. {Is this evidence enough?}With that in mind, it is amazing that anyone can say that the IDSF and CADA did not ban CDDSC competitions in Canada. As Sammy Stopford said {IDSF changes its policy but not its position}. Meaning that now IDSF leave it up to individual countries to do the bans. Sambatogo. Reply Quote
quicktime2 Joined on 31 VIII 2007 Total posts: 66	Re: UNREGISTERED COMPETITIONS: WHAT ARE THEY? 11. března 2008 18:19 hi keggs - regarding IPDSC Championship in Madrid This is from carlos freitag report to 2007 agm llast year. I also bring to your attention Press Release Nr 02/2007, where we informed you that the WDC started litigation against IDSF to try and stop the first IPDSC Championship in Madrid. As you know, WDC lost the Case and they were ordered by the Court to meet IDSF costs. I can now confirm that WDC appealed this decision and the final result will be published soon. We are looking forward to winning the appeal. I have not followed this. Have you information on the appeal? Even when the court case is over, its hard to tell from the information sent out by IDSF what really happened. Reply Quote
keggs Joined on 24 XII 2005 Total posts: 172	Re: UNREGISTERED COMPETITIONS: WHAT ARE THEY? 11. března 2008 21:26 Hi quicktime2 The WDC lost. I think was January or February. The IDSF web site has the 2 page court info. My comment really was that the WDC knowing it lost 'forgot' to inform everyone else to this fact. No doubt the IDSF would have done the same. Both organisations should grow up. Regards Steve Reply Quote
quicktime2 Joined on 31 VIII 2007 Total posts: 66	Re: UNREGISTERED COMPETITIONS: WHAT ARE THEY? 12. března 2008 6:19 hi keggs The press release on the IDSF site comments on the result of the first court action. Later, in his address to the AGM, Freitag mentioned that the WDC had appealed the ruling and IDSF hoped to win the appeal. I haven't heard about the results of the appeal, or even if it has been held yet. But the Spain case had to do with the professional organization IPDSC. I'm more interested in the reason why some national associations ban competitions and others do not. I would think that if it was a matter of dancesport principle, then competitors in all countries should be treated the same. Reply Quote
keggs Joined on 24 XII 2005 Total posts: 172	Re: UNREGISTERED COMPETITIONS: WHAT ARE THEY? 12. března 2008 8:30 Hi quicktime2 This is my own personal opinion and nothing to do with supporting or not supporting the IDSF or WDC. I hate to think anyone should be banned from anything. But a stand has to be made when individuals decide to break the rules of an organisation. By all means break it if you wish - that's your democratic choice - but you must accept the consequences if you do. Don't winge if you do get banned. As for national countries versus international bodies. I think this very much depends on who is organising the event. The IDSF or WDC should not interfere in national matters unless it impinges on International matters. In a sense you could equate this to a Federal system of Government. Regards Steve Reply Quote
johnchoi Joined on 14 III 2008 Total posts: 6	Re: UNREGISTERED COMPETITIONS: WHAT ARE THEY? 14. března 2008 16:22 Hi everyone. It is the first time that I noticed there would be so many forums about Canadian dance world. I think if we keep ourselves calm and just discuss and friendly debate instead of accusation, we could help promote and improve dancing in Canada. I think sometimes we forgot that we mostly start off dancing for the joy and fun of dancing. I strongly believe no matter you are just a new starter or a champion you should never forget dancing is for fun (and may I also say a sports for fun; shouldn't we all find fun in what we are doing afterall?) You may say I am double sided but I do agree and disagree in "unregistered competition". Dancing at the championship level and (though it may never happen) having a chance to 'represent' Canada in world events organized by IDSF, I think we have no choice but to be bounded by the organization's rules and regulations, like Adwiz had mentioned. If I choose not to achieve Canadian representative level, maybe I could choose not to follow and just do not dance any "closed" competitions - just dance the "open" ones. Now the disagree part (or maybe just a little suggestion). Although there are rules and regulations for levels other than championship, I hardly heard of a world event for those levels. So would it be advisable to allow our non-championship level dancers to get more experiences in dancing more competitions - club events or non IDSF (CADA, OADA, etc) bodies' events? This probably might increase the interests of non-championship level dancers and might keep more dancers survive through the championship level. When you reach championship level, sorry no more mercy, strict rules, I totally agree, as those dancers/athletes ARE representing Canada to compete against the world under IDSF, the organized body. Afterall, I, well might not be 100% right but it should be close, believe that we dancers just want to have more fun in dancing (especially juniors, youths and seniors; adult category?, well, it might mean a choice of future career and profession for them so I cannot comment). Now, not to mention names, please respect 35 + and above more. We are not as young as we have been and most of us do not start dancing until a later age. Therefore, knowledge wise and body wise, we have to "spend" a lot extra then our younger fellow dancers to achieve better skills. Happy dancing everyone :) PS:- oh by the way, I guess most agruments concern amateur dancers. If anyone really doesn't like limitations, why not think of turning professional? Remember competition makes everyone a winner but only one is crowned champion. So, let's just dance, shall we dance? Reply Quote
little_sonya Joined on 22 II 2008 Total posts: 5	Re: UNREGISTERED COMPETITIONS: WHAT ARE THEY? 15. března 2008 20:28 Hi johnchoice, I am sorry, I understand now, you are not very young any more. But it does not matter, if you look young and are full of energy and vigorous and with some hair I would still dance with you at least you sound very wise and leader like. Little_Sonya ( 36-22-34, ch/c,NS, S, Irish dance, and A.Tango 5'3''in heels, blk.hair, ) Reply Quote
sambatogo Joined on 29 VIII 2007 Total posts: 74	Re: UNREGISTERED COMPETITIONS: WHAT ARE THEY? 17. března 2008 17:35 Hi JohnChoi, Regarding your last comment "Why not think of turning professional?" That would have in the past been the only option for Amateurs. But now there are options and choice with the WDC in Canada. The CDDSC. You should work on getting people to exercise their right of choice in Ontario. They may not have to leave OADA if you can get them to change their restrictive rules? remember they work for you! Sambatogo. Reply Quote